Community Building Insights

by Kathryn on November 3, 2009

Thought I’d just give a glimpse into what I’ve been up to lately. I recently had the challenge and pleasure of participating in a companies foray into the world of Social Media. It was a great experience for me as well as a paying job, which is always nice to have these days!

I was given the title Community Advocate that came with responsibilities very similar to what is discussed here in this post about Community Management.

It’s very interesting when working with a company who has not used a Social Media strategy before. It’s a big leap of faith for them to say, “Here is my business, now please go represent me on the internet.”

It takes a huge amount of trust for this to work. All the potential client really has to base decisions on is case studies on what has worked for other businesses and your word that you know what you’re doing.

In this case the company had a website where they were successfully selling a product to a very loyal following. This company also had a very active presence on a few online forums where they were managing their brand, answering questions about their products and relaying new product information.

2837373493_35f6a42de7 It was not difficult to attract followers. This company thrived on excellent customer service and had ardent, loyal customers. We started a Facebook fan page for them and engagement there was a success. We ran a contest and not only was it fun, we had a lot of participants. All was going well.

Bi-weekly reporting showed a slow steady increase in our numbers. By all measures our engagement on social platforms was a success, BUT, it didn’t turn into more visits to their site and, in turn, did not turn into more sales. My attempts at strategy — and I came up with excellent ideas, I might add — weren’t accepted because they were new and scary and involved more trust in engagement with the online world.

What I learned from this experience is:

- It is necessary for the company/brand you are representing to have clearly defined goals

- It is important and paramount to the success of your project that the people you are working for understand the time necessary to grow a community, instill trust and engage

- A monthly examination of those goals to see if they are still applicable is a must

- Clear definitions of what measurement tools you are using and what those numbers actually mean, and what those numbers can result in must be explained

- Policies stating what constitute an emergency and how that will be handled (for example, customer complaints, bad “press”) must be put in place. The Community Manager’s role must not be over-ridden if something like this occurs – everyone must share information and work together

- There needs to be clearly defined roles and chain of “command” in terms of who speaks through what channels and when. It’s no fun to sign on and discover *someone* who you work for has been tweeting away in your absence, without your knowledge. It confuses people

After a few months, they gave up their online presence and stuck with the way things were before. This company was comfortable in their tradition and that comfort, coupled with economic influences, determined the Community Advocate role was not necessary. They wanted to see more direct visits to their site, which in turn they hoped would result in more sales.

Was this a failure? No.

I learned a lot from this challenge, the company became educated in using Social Media to attract, engage, respond and reward customers. And customers, in turn, gained insight into a company that cared enough to try.

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John W. Bosley November 3, 2009 at 6:19 pm

Great post. Thanks for letting us see the good and bad related to community advocate and working with a company that had not previously established a presence on SM. I’m going to take your info and learn from it to better how I do things myself. Thanks for the post.

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Kathryn November 3, 2009 at 6:25 pm

Nice to see you here John! Thanks for stopping by! Always something to learn, that’s for sure. There are soooo many companies out there that find the whole idea of Social Media intimidating. These guys at least gave it a good try.

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hdbbstephen on Twitter November 4, 2009 at 6:20 am

I have found that your experience is pretty common, especially when the people in the company can’t (or won’t) be consistent and persistent with their engagement or content generation. It is one thing to create a community platform, it is quite another to invest the time and effort of going out and living there for long enough for the “real” results to show up.

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Kathryn November 4, 2009 at 6:23 am

Agreed. These folks wanted to try they just assumed it was easier, I think. People forget any investment worthwhile takes time. Nice to see you here :)

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John Haydon November 4, 2009 at 6:23 am

Kathryn,

I love this post! It’s one a the few “proof of concepts” in building community. I’m curious if the company ever considered developing a private community, like a Ning site that could integrate community a bit tighter into their web-site.

John

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Kathryn November 4, 2009 at 6:28 am

Why thank you! It was suggested, but they honestly did not have the time themselves to devote to it. I believe they liked the idea of a community but again, didn’t understand the necessity of investment required.

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John Haydon November 4, 2009 at 10:34 am

In time, they might get it… keep in touch with them!

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Julian-Courtney Lukács November 4, 2009 at 6:30 am

Great work as always Kathryn… with solid observations.

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Kathryn November 4, 2009 at 6:32 am

Why, I really appreciate that!

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pdobrowolski November 4, 2009 at 7:11 am

John, thanks for this post, it is critical that people experiment with social media. It raises their level of awareness and brings them into the 21st century so that they will be prepared to meet the needs of millennials. Whether they stuck with it or not, important to grow their knowledge.

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Kathryn November 4, 2009 at 7:45 am

I agree. We both ended up winners here as we both learned something.

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Tim Bursch November 5, 2009 at 6:16 am

Hi Kathryn,
This is really helpful. Especially setting expectations and putting some policies in place up front. I think some small businesses think social media will cost nothing and be their silver bullet for marketing. While others avoid new media because it seems overwhelming and does not produce results. Both could be true. Seems like we just have to do something, be authentic, and learn together.
Thanks for sharing a unique success story. It’s not all about the numbers.

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Kathryn November 5, 2009 at 7:37 am

You’re right Tim – it was a success. Thanks for pointing that out. Im glad you found this helpful. I appreciate you stopping by.

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Elizabeth Sosnow November 5, 2009 at 3:38 pm

Kathryn,

I just wanted to say how much I admired your honesty and thoughtfulness. I learned more from this post than the last 10 that I’ve read combined. Disappointments breed better insights.

Much appreciated,

Elizabeth

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Kathryn November 5, 2009 at 4:20 pm

Thank you so much for saying that. It means a lot. There’s a LOT of evangelizing out “there” . The truth of the matter is often different. It’s hard work.

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Maria November 7, 2009 at 2:47 pm

Kathryn, thank you for sharing your insights. Alignment on goals, and what community management can and can not do, combined with realistic timelines, is key! A lot of clients I talk to expect social media to work like a magic pill in 2-3 months and convert to sales immediately. Even though sales and pageviews are a surefire way to measure ROI, community management is so much more. A lot of what we do can be compared to the halo effect of TV advertising from decades ago – hard to measure, but increases positive brand image. Except for community management does so much more than that, because you as a client can actually engage with the company and the company’s clients.

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Kathryn November 8, 2009 at 9:22 am

Maria – yes so much more, and a necessity. Discussion surrounding the Company/client is already happening out there so engagement is key. Interesting, I’ll need to research more about the halo effect. Thanks so much for stopping by!

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Nate St. Pierre November 7, 2009 at 4:33 pm

The company I work for in my day job is just now thinking about venturing out in the social media space. The thing I keep preaching to them is your point #3. It takes time, effort and involvement from members of the organization to do this right (and there are a lot of ways to do it wrong).

In my experience, non-tech-savvy execs tend to see it as a simple exchange: set up the social media accounts to increase traffic –> increased traffic equals more sales. If only it were that easy… :)

Nice post.

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Kathryn November 8, 2009 at 9:26 am

Hi Nate, good to see you here! Yes, I agree it looks simple, and I think we (as users) might be complicit in that image. We tend to talk about it as “fun”. simple and “easy”. We need to be more realistic, I think, in our description and pitch.

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